Australian Story producer Kirstin Murray recapitulates her day by interviewing singer-songwriter Kate Miller-Heidke, while the musician talks about her career and her personal ups and downs for her Eurovision shows in Tel Aviv.
There is an expectation when Australian Story participants sign up and give our movie staff an additional level of access.
Access to the family, access to their home and access to their inner thoughts.
This is the hallmark of the program and ultimately what made the show a success over its 23 years on the air.
For loungeroom viewers sitting at home on the couch, there's a deep satisfaction in looking behind the curtain.
There are also valuable lessons to get information on how others deal with difficulties.
But what is the experience for the person in the spotlight, the person who has chosen to share their private life with national television?
In this week's episode, Australian singer-songwriter Kate Miller-Heidke revealed her lack of career, relationship difficulties, traumatic birth and the uncertainty that followed.
Miller-Heidke has been admired by the public since he was a teenager and has released countless interviews.
He is an expert artist and talking about his music is natural.
But while our film crew unpack the tools and turn on the lights in her Melbourne home, I have a flash of apprehension on her face.
It is common during the shooting of the main interviews.
The air can be full of trepidation, waiting for some arguments to emerge, some questions to ask.
Miller-Heidke sits down. The interview begins.
We talk about how she was "born singing", of how there was never another career on cards, how she met and fell in love with her husband and collaborator, Keir Nuttall.
His answers come easily.
It is time now, I suggest, to talk about Ernie, his beloved son.
"Can we talk about his birth and the period after that?" I ask.
One thing that Miller-Heidke – the musician – is known for is the stories that tell his songs.
Regarding rejection, bullying, sexual harassment, pain.
On the surface its music seems light, jumping towards a catchy refrain. But c & # 39 is often a dark undertone.
She is not shy about facing serious issues with her strong voice.
"It's much more difficult to express my feelings with words than to perform a song that could tap into the deepest emotions I've ever felt," he says.
"I'm going to experience the version of myself that is a total extrovert, but from the stage I tend to process things internally".
Miller-Heidke continues the interview, pausing at times, working hard to remember the memories his mind had stored.
He describes me (and to the camera by my side) how the months after becoming a new mother felt like "a fog mentally, physically, it was like moving through this kind of darkness".
It opens on his confidence that is destroyed.
"It was a small voice inside me that said that Ernie could be better with a mother who instinctively knows what she needs and how to give it to him," he says.
"So I suppose I feel a bit unsuccessful," he adds.
People can often wonder what drives a person to drag out their "little pieces of shame" to ventilate their luggage on national TV.
I think, for Miller-Heidke, it's the same reason he sings.
Once our interview is over, it is clear that a burden has risen from the shoulders of Miller-Heidke.
While the crew sends the stuff away, I sit down at his dining table and talk about his adoptive city, Melbourne and Ernie's favorite activities, which help ease his transition to the present.
Also helping is that adorable baby, eating a corn cob while he gets on the couch and Kate's husband, who is joking.
Miller-Heidke's attention will now turn into one of his greatest challenges, a performance on the biggest stage of his career.
Early Sunday morning (Australian time) the musician born in Brisbane will sing at the grand finale of the Eurovision song contest in Tel Aviv.
He's performing Zero Gravity, a song that captures how you feel now that the fog has risen.
And how does it feel to share this personal experience with a worldwide audience of 200 million?
"When I go on stage and sing one of these songs for the first time, or even the tenth, the eleventh time, it can sometimes get quite tough. You're reliving everything in your mind," he says.
"But then, after a certain point, the song stops feeling like mine, but there seems to be this new kind of common ownership of the song and the feeling behind it: it's a nice sharing process, it's like a lifted weight in a way.
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