WWE Survivor Series: War Games was a slight affair, with just two War Games matches and two title matches. A new intercontinental Champion was crowned, and The Vision seemingly gained a new, mysterious member.

We’ve already broken down what happened on the show, over on the results pageand the team has already put together their loves and their hates from S

Let’s get this out of the way at the top: If you paid live event ticket prices for four matches and a lot of commercials, then I’m sorry, but you got “got,” as they say in the carnie business.

Now,I understand that people can do what they want with their hard-earned cash,and it’s also very hard to have a “bad” night in the eternally mild and warm San Diego breeze,but I barely felt like I got enough for my $30 ESPN subscription.So I can only imagine how people who paid three digits, or possibly even a price with a comma, to sit in the stands and stare at a cage for four hours. I said this in the Loved and Hateds for “SmackDown,” there needs to be a middle ground between the 7-hour death marches that AEW puts on and the 4-hour infomercials for WrestleMania that WWE puts on. Where is the major North American promotion that will give me 6-8 solid matches at a relatively swift clip?

It wasn’t a bad Survivor Series, but it feels like the event could use a Day 2 like SummerSlam and WrestleMania get. War Games is a poor substitute for the Royal Rumble, but the show was structured as if they were. It was maddening, and it made me feel for the fans in the crowd.

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I need everyone involved in the Men’s War Games match to take a good, long look in the mirror because Saturday’s match was an abomination. Dusty Rhodes is spinning in his grave. While the WWE version of War Games already has plenty of alterations to the original conceit,there have been established rules,like exiting the cage counts a forfeit,that were simply ignored and disregarded,making the match feel like a bunch of geeks wandering around,cosplaying a WWE match. Jey Uso ran his theme song back in the middle of the 40-minute embarrassment.

I can get over the addition of pinfalls. I can get over the lack of a roof. But WWE’s version of War Games has been sanded down to such a point that it is almost impossible for any kind of catharsis, especially in the wake of AEW’s gruesome twist on the match. I understand that WWE is a kid’s show, but there is still a level of coherence and professionalism that children’s performers have that the men who closed out Survivor Series simply didn’t. It reminded me of that Royal Rumble with Brock Lesnar and Shane McMahon, where it felt like all the nonsense backstage was bleeding out into unspoken restrictions and silent animosities. I will be fascinated to read the book about all the bull**** that went on to lead to the match, but the match itself was a dud that made everyone involved look bad.