Butler Rejects Hanson’s NDIS Allegations
Federal NDIS Minister Mark Butler has publicly dismantled claims from One Nation leader Pauline Hanson regarding National Disability Insurance Scheme participation rates within Muslim communities. During a recent podcast interview with UK-based activist Tommy Robinson, Hanson alleged that “Muslim streets” have “quite a lot of people on the NDIS”. Butler dismissed the assertions on Friday, confirming that no such data has ever been provided to his office and suggesting the claims are entirely without merit.
A Lack of Evidentiary Basis
The Minister was blunt in his rebuttal of the narrative. “I‘m not sure where Ms Hanson is getting her figures from, but they’ve never been provided to me as the minister for disability and the minister for the NDIS,” Butler said. He added, “I suspect they don’t exist.” Beyond the data dispute, Butler condemned Hanson’s choice of platform. He took aim at her appearance with Robinson—born Stephen Yaxley-Lennon—labeling him a “convicted criminal” who has been disowned by so many leading figures on the right.
Rhetoric and Welfare Allegations
The more than hour-long interview spanned a range of political positions. Hanson advocated for a ban on Islamic headdresses and proposed stopping immigration from locations she considers “radical Islamic countries,” a plan similar to US President Donald Trump’s so-called Muslim ban. Regarding the NDIS, Hanson claimed that many migrant groups want to come to Australia to access the scheme. She further alleged, without evidence, that members of the Muslim community in Australia are relying on taxpayer support to have large numbers of children, claiming that “the Allah providing is the taxpayer”.
Parliamentary Condemnation
The fallout from the podcast has been swift, drawing sharp rebuke. Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young branded the interview “appalling” and “un-Australian.” She issued a direct call for the One Nation leader to return to Australia and offer an apology, characterizing the broadcast as laughing on a show about multiculturalism.
A Divided Political Response
Defending the party leader, One Nation senator Sean Bell insisted that Hanson is “standing up for Australian values” while traveling through Europe. Hanson remains abroad, with a scheduled appearance at a conservative political action conference in London hosted by former UK prime minister Liz Truss.

Summary of Disputed Claims
- Disputed Claims: Minister Mark Butler stated that no evidence exists to support Hanson’s claims regarding NDIS participation rates among specific religious or ethnic groups.
- Podcast Platform: The interview took place on a program hosted by Tommy Robinson, a figure described by Mark Butler as a convicted criminal.
- Legislative Opposition: Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young has publicly criticized the appearance, labeling the rhetoric as un-Australian.
- Ongoing Travel: Despite domestic criticism, One Nation senator Sean Bell maintains that Hanson is “working tirelessly for the Australian people”.